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John Crane
2020-11-27 18:32:50 UTC
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Tilly? This is a joke, right? For me, it's to the point of damaging
believability - which is critical for SF. Evidently the all-feel
no-think liberal writers have no experience with real leadership.

While Tilly has made great strides, there is still an incredible amount
of learning and growth that needs to happen before she is ready for
this. Not to mention the rank disparity, and negative effect on crew
morale because of the decision. 'Why should I work hard and progress
through the ranks - when this can happen?', etc.

Personally, I would have asked the Admiral for a replacement. Use this
person as a liaison to the new time,federation,fleet, etc.

-John
The Horny Goat
2020-11-28 19:11:14 UTC
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Post by John Crane
Tilly? This is a joke, right? For me, it's to the point of damaging
believability - which is critical for SF. Evidently the all-feel
no-think liberal writers have no experience with real leadership.
While Tilly has made great strides, there is still an incredible amount
of learning and growth that needs to happen before she is ready for
this. Not to mention the rank disparity, and negative effect on crew
morale because of the decision. 'Why should I work hard and progress
through the ranks - when this can happen?', etc.
Personally, I would have asked the Admiral for a replacement. Use this
person as a liaison to the new time,federation,fleet, etc.
Presumably you would prefer her "mirror" alter-ego!
John Crane
2020-11-28 23:49:06 UTC
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Post by The Horny Goat
Presumably you would prefer her "mirror" alter-ego!
It's not a preference. It's a matter of leadership. Those laws were
written long before I was born. Education, training, emotional
stability, and intelligence are but the starting ingredients. Over time,
those can evolve into experience, maturity, confidence, and wisdom. All
needed for leadership.

I think it's a lack of understanding on the part of the writers. I've
seen other signs that they tend to see things only from the narrow
viewpoint of someone in the entertainment industry. There were instances
where they seem to think command is nothing more than an 'acting' job
one performs in front of the crew. And they regularly misinterpret
intelligence as education/training, or worse: 'general competence' in
all things. Perhaps in addition to science advisers, they should have
some military advisers as well.

Even in today's Navy, there is no way an Ensign who was a Cadet a year
ago, gets to be XO of a cruiser class ship. A PT boat maybe, but not a
ship the size of Discovery.

Of course, I could be wrong and the writers see all this. It could all
be a prelude to the court-martial of Saru, over his gross incompetence.
With Burnham's record, she should never have made XO. Now Tilly. Seems
like Saru has a long way to go as well.

I realize the writers are striving for a 'maverick type' like Kirk, in
the character of Burnham; but they are going overboard with it. Kirk
bucked authority and made calculated risks; and had an excellent sense
of intuition. Burnham, on the other hand, is just reckless. Perhaps
this is known to the writers as well. Recklessness as an emotional
rebound from the years of rigid Vulcan training. So she must come to
grips with herself as a human. That emotional instability should have
been detected by starfleet medical, and treated. You don't give an
unstable person command over others - ref 'Doomsday Machine' and
Commodore Decker.

my $0.02
-J

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